Interesting video series on CFJ "secrets of the elite". Although it was more about psychology of the elite. I sorta like the idea of never doing a wod twice like Rob Orlando talks about. I'm also interested to see who wins the games and what kind of training they did. I don't know if it will answer many questions though since there are so many variables (genetics, luck of the draw, etc).
I'm curious to see what these guys could do in mainstream athletics. How would they do at the NFL Combine, can they do a triathlon, what would their 3 Point Contest score look like, what's their high jump, and anything else that society holds in high regard as athletic achievement. I'll bet Rob Orlando could destroy some Rock Band, just because he CrossFits.
I read a point someone made once that I think I agree with. If these guys could be elite in a major sport they would be. After all, that's where the money is. Also, many of the professional athletes in CF are past their prime in their sport so they turn to CF. CF is also very young as a sport. Whereas, an elite nfl wr has excelled through hard work and genetics rising to the top at every level which gets progressively harder until he is proven to be at the top; we have yet to see cf'ers who have been culled through the same selection process or who have been attracted to it as a sport than can truly earn them a fantastic living.
Valid point. So then the comparison should be broader, Larry Fitzgerald versus Miko. Throw them through some football stuff and then some CF. I'd wager that Larry Fitzgerald would do pretty well in the CF arena. I also think that your point is correct, that Miko wouldn't be close to Fitz in the football skills.
Perhaps cf as a gpp program would make fitz even better as a football player but guys like that possess freaky genetic skills. Give him a little training on specific cf moves and I bet he's freaky at cf. Your average nfl rb prolly has a bench near 400, w a squat around 500 and a 40 time under 5 so there's isn't much doubt about the skill they possess.
I recall seeing an NFL'er doing CrossFit in 2008. If i recall he placed 96th. Granted, the position he played did not lend itself to being a svelte machine.
I dunno J, knocking a 330lbs ox of a man dead square on his ass requires a good amount of skill. Pulling and being able to seal block on a linebacker that is much quicker than you, that's a big skill. Yes, they're not the total package like a LB or HB would be, but as a former QB, you really gotta appreciate those guys and what they do.
Lineman is arguably one of the most difficult skill positions in football. That's where the game is won and lost, in fractions of a second, choosing the right direction to move, protecting the QB, or clearing out a linebacker, those guys have it rough. Yeah they are big and fat, but they are also strong and fast, purpose built machines, fast feet, fast hands, quick thinkers. Knowing every blocking pattern, do i pull, do i release and go to the line backers, do i cut, probably the most underrated players on the field...
That being said, they aren't exactly "Cross Fit" fit...
T, I'm with you on the linemen. Sure, those guys may not have the gymnastics prowess that Spealler has, but I'll bet he's not able to push a horse backwards.
Football hits lots of the 10 areas of fitness no doubt, regardless of the position...well except for kicker and waterboy. In common areas, the NFL athlete can probably smoke a CF'er. Tell them to climb a 20ft rope 5x, bang out Diane, play footsy with full Cindy then book an 800m run....I'll put my vote with CF'ers.
Constantly Varying High Intensity Functional Movement is king in the 2 legged world. Besides has a CF'er shot himself in the leg or ran an illegal dogfighting club? Can't say I've heard about a CF'er pulling off one of those yet.
There's no doubt the thing said about O linemen are true but they are not a skill position in the vernacular of football nor do they possess the skills to fill a skill position. Yes, nfl'ers are specialists in their sport but most of them are absolutely freaky athletes. I would guess that a rb, wr, db, and many lb's who were given a few months of cf specific training would fall easily amongst the elite of cf. My guess is that many of them are getting by on mostly the blessings of genetics anyway and given the benefit of gpp that cf can provide they would be even scarier.
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Seriously? This is what we get after today's?!????
Eat up on some good food, recover, sleep, n show up ready to crush it!
How's the leg, Kristian?
Not too bad. It's a little painful to sit and walk, but it's a lot better than I thought it would be.
I'll take it easy this week and see how it feels on Monday. Maybe I'll try going for a light jog sometime this weekend.
Maybe I should have let you and John work on it....nope, maybe not.
The offer still stands!
Yeah man, I got the towel ready. We'll get you squared away. Or I could just step on it like those Asian ladies do.
Interesting video series on CFJ "secrets of the elite". Although it was more about psychology of the elite. I sorta like the idea of never doing a wod twice like Rob Orlando talks about. I'm also interested to see who wins the games and what kind of training they did. I don't know if it will answer many questions though since there are so many variables (genetics, luck of the draw, etc).
I'm curious to see what these guys could do in mainstream athletics. How would they do at the NFL Combine, can they do a triathlon, what would their 3 Point Contest score look like, what's their high jump, and anything else that society holds in high regard as athletic achievement. I'll bet Rob Orlando could destroy some Rock Band, just because he CrossFits.
I read a point someone made once that I think I agree with. If these guys could be elite in a major sport they would be. After all, that's where the money is. Also, many of the professional athletes in CF are past their prime in their sport so they turn to CF. CF is also very young as a sport. Whereas, an elite nfl wr has excelled through hard work and genetics rising to the top at every level which gets progressively harder until he is proven to be at the top; we have yet to see cf'ers who have been culled through the same selection process or who have been attracted to it as a sport than can truly earn them a fantastic living.
Valid point. So then the comparison should be broader, Larry Fitzgerald versus Miko. Throw them through some football stuff and then some CF. I'd wager that Larry Fitzgerald would do pretty well in the CF arena. I also think that your point is correct, that Miko wouldn't be close to Fitz in the football skills.
Perhaps cf as a gpp program would make fitz even better as a football player but guys like that possess freaky genetic skills. Give him a little training on specific cf moves and I bet he's freaky at cf. Your average nfl rb prolly has a bench near 400, w a squat around 500 and a 40 time under 5 so there's isn't much doubt about the skill they possess.
I recall seeing an NFL'er doing CrossFit in 2008. If i recall he placed 96th. Granted, the position he played did not lend itself to being a svelte machine.
Yep. Offensive lineman. Not exactly a "skill" position...
I dunno J, knocking a 330lbs ox of a man dead square on his ass requires a good amount of skill. Pulling and being able to seal block on a linebacker that is much quicker than you, that's a big skill. Yes, they're not the total package like a LB or HB would be, but as a former QB, you really gotta appreciate those guys and what they do.
Lineman is arguably one of the most difficult skill positions in football. That's where the game is won and lost, in fractions of a second, choosing the right direction to move, protecting the QB, or clearing out a linebacker, those guys have it rough. Yeah they are big and fat, but they are also strong and fast, purpose built machines, fast feet, fast hands, quick thinkers. Knowing every blocking pattern, do i pull, do i release and go to the line backers, do i cut, probably the most underrated players on the field...
That being said, they aren't exactly "Cross Fit" fit...
Also my 15+8 was a PR I think...
Jason - 19+26 GR!
Evan - 18+9
Steve - 17+5 PR!
Tyler - 15+8 PR!
Sean - 15+2 PR!
Jess - 15
Keith - 14+6 PR!
Todd - 12
Matt - 10+5
Donte - 9+5
Mike T - 10 (Blue)
Vinu - 14+5 (B.Row)
Eric - 12+1 (B.Row, None-Tire PU)
Susan - 16+10 GR!
Mandi - 14 PR!
Lindsay - 13+5 (none-red, knee)
Kim - 12+15 (Red, knee)
Amee - 12+2 (Green, knee)
Julie - 11+5 (B.Row,Lt.G-knee)
Kelly - 12 (B.Row, Knee)
Rachel - 11 (B.Row, 7-8 reps PU,Red PU/ROM)
All updated T, thank you :)
T, I'm with you on the linemen. Sure, those guys may not have the gymnastics prowess that Spealler has, but I'll bet he's not able to push a horse backwards.
It's all about the hopper folks!
Football hits lots of the 10 areas of fitness no doubt, regardless of the position...well except for kicker and waterboy. In common areas, the NFL athlete can probably smoke a CF'er. Tell them to climb a 20ft rope 5x, bang out Diane, play footsy with full Cindy then book an 800m run....I'll put my vote with CF'ers.
Constantly Varying High Intensity Functional Movement is king in the 2 legged world. Besides has a CF'er shot himself in the leg or ran an illegal dogfighting club? Can't say I've heard about a CF'er pulling off one of those yet.
Note to self:
1) Don't let Steve find out about CFD's midnight 'Hound Pound'.
2) Wear longer shorts to hide scar.
There's no doubt the thing said about O linemen are true but they are not a skill position in the vernacular of football nor do they possess the skills to fill a skill position.
Yes, nfl'ers are specialists in their sport but most of them are absolutely freaky athletes. I would guess that a rb, wr, db, and many lb's who were given a few months of cf specific training would fall easily amongst the elite of cf.
My guess is that many of them are getting by on mostly the blessings of genetics anyway and given the benefit of gpp that cf can provide they would be even scarier.
13+5
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